CARF 2018 Conference Notes:

First of all, I am so glad I went to the CARF Conference! It was worth every dime I spent – a true investment in myself, but hopefully I can bless and encourage others from what I learned.

The CARF staff and volunteers are friendly and eager to help each of us. The doctors who presented information are compassionate towards us patients and passionate about their research to find the cause and cure for cicatricial alopecias. I’ve never been to a conference where presenters are so accessible to the attendees, eating meals with us, mingling with us, and answering our zillions of questions.

CARF will have a new website launched soon. I encourage you to check it out when it goes live and at the very least, sign up for their e-newsletter. They will be bringing back the physician referral list, launching an anonymous online support group (especially helpful for those of us who aren’t on Facebook), and providing ways to connect to support groups in your area. Don’t have one in your area? Considering starting one! There are so many others just like us who we can be of support and compassion to in this journey of scarring hair loss.

Now, a few quick words: this will be a lengthy post. I have 12 typed pages of notes from the day and a half seminar! I will do my best to condense the information and provide topic headings in case you want to skip over things. Also, just a disclaimer that I am NOT a physician, I am a patient, and these are my personal notes as I heard them and nothing here is meant to diagnose, treat, or cure any scarring hair loss. I hope this information will be helpful to those seeking answers.

If there is anyone on here who also attended CARF, feel free to add things I’ve missed or correct any mis-information.

WHAT CAUSES CICATRICIAL ALOPECIA (CA)?

Dr. Jeff Donovan, Dermatologist from Vancouver, Canada

  • New and upcoming research in three areas are going to be key to getting closer to a solution: genomics (dna), proteomics (proteins in the cells), and lipidomics (fats/lipids in the cells).
  • Random factoid: We are born with 100k follicles on our scalp.
  • Dr. Donovan did a great job explaining in layman’s terms what has happened to our hair follicles. For those who have non-scarring alopecias, their hair follicle gets attacked at the very root of the follicle. It causes the hair loss but it isn’t permanent. For those of us with CA, our hair follicle is attacked at the “bulge”, a bump 2/3 of the way up the hair shaft. This is the key area involved in scarring alopecia. This is where the stem cells are located. Stem cells are what generate new hair as existing healthy hairs go through a normal cycle. Because the inflammation attacks the bulge, our stem cells there are destroyed preventing new hair growth from that follicle ever again.
  • The other thing that disappears in those of us with CA are the sebaceous or oil glands near the surface of our scalp. The oil gland is necessary to help lubricate the hair follicle, help hair grow, etc. (Hmm, is there any connection to my dry facial skin, dry eyes, dry everything? More on that later…)
  • What is still unknown is the process or trigger which leads to the destruction of stem cells in the bulge and loss of oil glands.
  • Are there common findings for scarring alopecias?
  1. Most have inflammation in mid to upper part of hair follicle which destroys the stem cells
  2. All CA show loss of sebaceous glands – is this really important? Yes. It’s needed for normal hair functioning.
  • In early CA, inflammation isn’t really active – it’s mild
  • Deregulated lipid metabolism is proposed to be a cause of inflammation in scarring alopecia. Altered lipids are important to how CA develops – pro-inflammatory and toxic sebaceous glands
  • Disruption of the PPAR gamma gene has an important role in LPP and other CA. PPARs control inflammation, scarring, blood sugar, fat cells and lipid metabolism. When PPARs are disrupted, it causes abnormal inflammation, abnormal scarring, abnormal blood sugar, and abnormal lipid metabolism.

USEFULNESS OF THE SCALP BIOPSY

Dr. Michael Ioffreda, Penn State Health, Hershey Medical Center

  • Doctors can’t tell much from just looking at the hair alone. They need to get down into the scalp to see what is going on (so, in a nutshell, YES, getting a biopsy is useful).
  • Doctors use a 4mm punch biopsy to extract a sample of your scalp after administering a local anesthetic. They then do horizontal sectioning and vertical sectioning of the sample and look at it under a microscope to see what is happening. Some say two biopsies from different areas of the scalp may be helpful.
    • If you want a diagnosis, the doctor should take the biopsy from the edge of the affected areas
    • If you want a prognosis, the doctor should take the biopsy from the center of the affected area
    • Where the biopsy is done matters. It needs to come from the area of hair loss.
  • FFA looks like LPP under the microscope, but the inflammation in FFA is not as dense.
  • Stem Cell research – goal is to find a treatment that will reverse hair loss and create new follicles. The only way to get new hair to generate is to create a new hair follicle. There are stem cell based therapies using tissue engineering that are being developed.
  • Studies have been done showing that where mice have wounds on their skin, hair follicles are generating. A company called Follica is looking to replicate this in humans. There is a possibility of creating wounds on the scalp then then adding growth factors to grow new hair – will see more on this in the next decade.
  • Penn State has a cutaneous regeneration initiative in progress.

BASICS OF LPP, FFA, CCCA

Dr. Kathie Huang, Harvard Medical School, Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, MA

*Note – the majority of conference attendees have LPP and/or FFA with a lower number of CCCA represented

  • Definitions:
    • Alopecia: hairloss of any type – partial or complete absence of hair on the body
    • Cicatricial Alopecia: scarring hair loss – hair is replaced with scar
  • Lichen Planopilaris (LPP): primarily affects crown of the head, itchy and flaky – lymphocytes are what attacks the hair follicle at the “bulge”. LPP is becoming more common over time. Range of inflammation and symptoms vary among patients. There can be other clues in the body to diagnose LPP such as lichen planus in ridging of fingernails, orally in the mouth, skin rashes, etc. Prognosis and course of LPP is unpredictable.
  • Frontal Fibrosing Alopecia (FFA): it is LPP in a different distribution – frontal hairline recedes and often affects the eyebrows. There are smooth areas of hair loss, follicular spines and redness around hair follicles. Some have itching or burning symptoms, others have none. Patients often have the “lonely hair sign” – lone hairs all by themselves. Also often have facial papules – bumps on forehead and cheek. Usually affects women post menopause but can affect men and children.
  • Central Centrifugal Cicatricial Alopecia (CCCA): Starts in the center of the crown, can be a lot of itching. Some redness and flaking, often no other symptoms. Predominately in African American women. Possible associations with Type 2 diabetes, bacterial scalp infections, acne. Genetics plays a role. Prognosis is unpredictable. Goal is to slow down and stop progression of hair loss. Need to practice gentle hair care, then use topicals, injectibles, and oral treatments.

BASICS OF DLE, DC, AND FD

Dr. Kimberly Salkey, VCU School of Medicine

*Note: There were only two attendees that I’m aware of who had one of these types of CA

  • Discoid Lupus: scalp is itchy and sore, worse with sun exposure
    • Cutaneous Lupus: a skin lupus mostly affecting young women, autoimmune condition, those with family history of lupus
    • 3 types – acute, subacute, chronic
    • Treatment – sun protection, stop smoking, topicals and injections, Plaquenil
  • Dissecting Cellulitis: sores on scalp, burning, itchy, no response to injections and antibiotics.
    • More prevalent in black men from teens to 30s. Rare in women and children
    • Treatment - surgical
  • Folliculitis Decalvans: not very common. Pustules around hair follicles followed by scarring.
    • Found in young and middle aged men, more men than women and more African Americans than Caucasians.
    • Presents tufted hair, abnormal staph aureus, genetic component, immune response to staph bacteria, looks like a dolls scalp

PRP THERAPY

Dr. Ronda Farah, University of Minnesota, Health Cosmetic Center, Lead, Dept of Dermatology

  • There is conflicting evidence regarding the efficacy of PRP for CA. Right now the data is focused on androgenetic/pattern hair loss. Pattern hair loss patients clinically do well with PRP therapy. In scarring alopecia the case improvement is variable.
  • There are active studies on the efficacy of PRP with LPP and FFA. More to come as studies progress.

JAK INHIBITORS

Dr. Brigitte Sallee, Columbia University

  • The drug Tofacitinib (Xeljans) is used a lot for non-scarring alopecia. However, studies are showing that it has also slowed the hair loss or controlled symptoms in 8 of 10 LPP patients with no adverse side effects. Tofacitinib is a JAK inhibitor (you’ll have to google that one if you want more info. A little over my head!)
  • Xeljans (usually prescribed for Rheumatoid Arthritis) is a JAK inhibitor. Those patients report seeing an increase in hair growth.

USE OF NARROW BAND UVB TREATMENT

Dr. Maryanne Senna, Massachusetts General, Founder of Hair Academic Innovative Research (HAIR)  

  • You can google MGH hair loss trials to see the work she is doing
  • There is a small sliver in the UVB spectrum that in small doses can be helpful (nbUVB). It has been used to treat vitiligo, psoriasis, eczema and itch.
  • She’s currently doing a study of this with LPP and FFA. So far all 6 patients in this study had reduced scalp redness and it reduced itch for most of them. 83% had increased thickness of their hair shafts. After treatment shows overall decrease in inflammation.
  • Near infrared laser typically works better on pattern hair loss (OTC laser combs, helmets)

SURGICAL THERAPIES

Dr. Nicole Rogers, New Orleans, LA

  • Hair transplants work best for pattern hair loss, traction alopecia, radiation induced hair loss, scars from facelift, brow lift, brain surgery. They can sometimes transplant stable CAs. Seems like it works better for patients with CCCA.

TREATING ITCH AND PAIN

Dr. Sarina Elmariah, Massachusetts General

  • Medical Options:
    • JAK inhibitors makes itch and pain go away
    • Cannabinoids target the nerves that cause itch and pain and inhibits inflammation
    • Gabapentinoids neutralize nerve activity that cause itch and pain. However, gabapentin can make you tired and dizzy.
  • Natural Options:
    • Apple cider vinegar and witch hazel are good for burn and itch. Soak a cotton ball and dab affected areas.
    • Avoid lemon juice, tea tree oil and peppermint oil on scalp.

LASER TREATMENTS

Dr. Ronda Farah

  • The efficacy of laser treatment is not well known yet; however, it is thought to lengthen the anagen phase of the hair cycle.
  • Look up the Spanish study just released 5/2018 by Pablo Fonda-Pascual et al

MEDICAL THERAPIES FOR SCARRING ALOPECIA

Dr. Lynne Goldberg, Boston University School of Medicine

  • No individual treatment has been proven to work consistently.
  • Treatments include: topical steroids, steroid injections, topical calcineurin inhibitors (Protopic, Elidel), Minoxidil (used to promote growth of unaffected follicles in the area of scarring. Helpful if co-existent pattern hair loss is suspected).
  • Tetracyclines: treats wide variety of infections – used for anti-inflammatory properties.
  • Topical antibiotics: Isotretinoin – drug used for severe nodulocystic acne – helpful for DC.
  • TNF Alpha Inhibitors: used more for several neutrocilic alopecias.
  • Lymphocitic CA (LPP): Plaquenil is an FDA approved antimalarial.
  • Finasteride – pretty safe. Doctors started using this in 2004 for female pattern hair loss. In 2013, the started using for FFA. It inhibits enzyme 5-a reductase – converts testosterone to DHT. Study showed all 120 patients improved or stabilized. Finasteride is androgen blocking in FFA. Decrease in estrogens could play a part as well.
  • Pioglitzone for LPP
  • *Note: you’ll have to look this stuff up and study on your own. It went pretty fast and I know I didn’t catch everything that was said about these medical therapies.

NUTRITION AND HAIR

Dr. Yolanda Lenzy, Dermatologist

  • Anti-inflammatory diet (AIP) or AIP/Paleo: AIP is rooted in Paleo with additional restrictions.
  • Certain foods trigger the immune system. In AIP, you cannot eat nuts, seeds, eggs and nightshades.
  • AIP hasn’t been shown yet to induce real change in hair but may help itch, pain, etc (symptoms)
  • Nutrition Tips:
    • Tip 1: omega 3 fatty acids (salmon, etc)
    • Tip 2: adequate proteins (lean meats)
    • Tip 3: foods rich in vitamin B (cruciferous greens, nuts, salmon, beef)
    • Tip 4: diet rich in vitamin C (helps the body produce protein which can help prevent breakage of hair)
    • Tip 5: consume adequate iron (ideal ferritin should be > 70) (green leafy vegetables, dried fruits, raisins and dates)
    • Tip 6: adequate zinc (seafood, seeds, lean red meats and poultry, pumpkin seeds)
    • Tip 7: whole grains (increased elasticity of hair)
    • Tip 8: supplement with whole food vitamins (not synthetic vitamins)
    • Tip 9: hair vitamins (look for high doses of vitamin A which can cause shedding)
      • Nutraceuticals (like Viviscal and Nutrafol) can be helpful.
      • Be careful of megadoses of Biotin which can cause labs to be off kilter. Thyroid can show to be low and can also produce false readings on cardiac enzymes.
    • Tip 10: drink green tea (it’s a DHT blocker which is responsible for miniaturization of hair follicle)
    • Tip 11: hair styling (use sulfate free shampoo, deep conditioning, use a leave in conditioner, avoid chemicals, don’t use heat styling too much, change up your hairstyle or your part now and then)

THE MIND BODY CONNECTION

Dr. Maryanne Senna

  • Stress is a normal part of life. It releases powerful neurochemicals and hormones and is our body’s natural reaction to danger.
  • So what do we do when we find out we have CA? We Google, do diets, watch our hair loss, spend money on solutions, and withdraw from social activities. Rather than spending time and dollars on this stuff, spend it on managing stress with meditation, yoga, hobbies, etc
  • Study showed people with high blood pressure who meditated over an 8 week period had a striking change in 172 genes that regulate inflammation, circadian rhythms and metabolism.
  • Dr. Senna talked about “immune privilege”. Loss of this immune privilege is thought to contribute to hair loss among other issues. (I’d like to study this one more).
  • When stress happens, there is increased signaling from the nervous system, increased neurogenic inflammation, and the hair follicle immune privilege collapses. So how do we rebuild our natural immune privilege? More studies are needed to evaluate correlation to stress.
  • Stress reduction needs to be a part of every treatment regimen.
  • Apps to download to help with stress reduction: Calm, Headspace, the Mindfulness app, Insight Timer

CAMOUFLAGE OPTIONS FOR SCALP AND EYEBROWS

Dr. Nicole Rogers

  • Hair fibers and concealers: Toppik, Exfusion, Nanogen, Go Fiber, all use fibers to create the appearance of thicker hair and help conceal the scalp. It was recommended to use a fixing spray to help keep the fibers in place. Use a shade lighter than your existing hair. The can be irritating to some people. Patients in the room preferred shaking it on vs using the balloon tool you can get from Toppik.
  • Root concealer spray: Such as Bumble and Bumble, Rita Hazen brands, are easy to use. Hair may feel a little chalky when applied.
  • Powder cakes: a more waterproof option. Dr. Rogers really likes Joan Rivers’ “Great Hair Day”. Powder cakes are a great option for those with FFA to help conceal area around ears/sideburns. Some brands include Couvre, Salon Grafix powder, CRC Concealing Color, dermMatch (also highly recommended). Can use powder in conjunction with hair fibers.
  • Other tips: grow your hair longer and use that hair to help camouflage. Try a new style to make hair look fuller. Change your hair part or zigzag the part. Go gray, add highlights, use high hold hair sprays.
  • Hair Prostheses: wigs, toppers with clips, bonded hair pieces.
    • Note that clips can be damaging to scalp and cause traction alopecia. They recommend if you use clip pieces, move the clips around. Don’t always put them in the same place.
    • You can search for someone who will make custom bangs - great for FFA patients
    • Your Dermatologist may be able to write a prescription for a prostheses
  • Tattoos: microblading and tattooing of eyebrows, adhesive eyebrows, scalp micropigmentation (still in infancy)
    • Go to spcp.org to make sure you get a reputable cosmetic tattoo person
  • Skin Camouflage: especially with FFA there may be an increased visibility of veins. Product that was recommended is Haute Protection Tinted SPF 50
  • Facial Papules: Isotretinoin (Accutane). Note that there are drawbacks to Accutane. Topical retinoids, laser treatments. Dr. Rogers highly recommended Neutrogena Healthy Skin Anti-Wrinkle Cream (Night) – it’s a retinol facial treatment

SAFE HAIR STYLING

Dr. Yolanda Lenzy

  • Use Sulfate-free shampoo/products
  • Deep conditioning good once/week for frizzy or thick hair
  • Use a leave-in conditioner – especially curly and frizzy hair (here! here!)
  • If you use heat styling, try to limit to once a week
  • Don’t put clips in same place all the time
  • Nioxin. There were comments that their marketing is off. They seem to promote themselves as a product for helping with hair loss but they are more of a volumizer with no active ingredients for hair growth.
  • Shea Moisture products are good (can be found in Ulta and drugstores)
  • Coloring your hair is OKAY. Several doctors recommended having a “patch test” done first to ensure you aren’t allergic to any of the ingredients. If you aren’t allergic, it’s okay to use. They do not have any evidence that hair coloring causes CA.

Q&A (a collection of questions asked by attendees throughout the conference)

What triggers this process?

Environment and Genetics. Genetics are not found to have a link with LPP or FFA. Genetics are more prevalent a cause in CCCA. Environment: infection such as staph has some role in Folliculitis Decalvans. Trauma or injury to scalp can play a role. Sunscreens – still not enough data to be sure that sunscreen plays a role.

What triggers LPP?

Still don’t know. Drugs, viruses, contact sensitizers such as hair dyes, sunscreens, makeup, are all still being researched.

Androgens?

  • Androgens - male hormones - may play more of a role in FFA. This is why the drugs Finasteride and Dutasteride are used for FFA.
  • It is hypothesized that a decrease in estrogens could play a role in the cause of FFA in women.
  • In one study:
    • High incidence rate of early menopause compared to the general population
    • A considerable number of women had undergone hysterectomy

What is the goal of treatment for CA?

At this point, the goal of treatment is to stop inflammation and slow or halt the progression of hair loss. This is accomplished using topical treatments, injectables, oral medication, or excimer and other laser treatments.

What do the doctors need most?

  • Funding for research
  • Physician time to do the research
  • Requested our assistance in lobbying politicians who believe in science and research to invest in funding these studies
  • Good photographs taken consistently over time REALLY help doctors track progression. If your doctor doesn’t take them, YOU take them.

What if my insurance doesn’t cover testing or treatment for CA?

L66.1 is the code that should be used – not a guarantee it will work but this is the one the doctor panel said to use. Doctors shouldn’t use the standard code for “alopecia” as some insurances may not accept this.

Do we know if CAs really burn out?

              We do not know for sure at this time.

If it burns out, is it for good or will it come back?

Also unknown.

How often should I go back to my doctor for follow ups?

Doctors usually space out visits as treatments progress. From several times/week, to once/week, to once every other week, to once/month and so on.

Do you need a biopsy to confirm burnout?

Doctors said YES. That is the only way to truly know. It will confirms a lack of inflammation.

Is there a correlation of thyroid disease and CA?

Hair loss from a thyroid condition is a separate cause and not related to CA.

Can I have more than one type of hair loss?

Yes, you can have more than one type of hair loss. In fact, there is a fair amount of overlap.

What about sunscreen?????

Avoid chemical sunscreens. Titanium dioxide okay. Blue Lizard Baby or Sensitive are good options. Look at your cosmetics too. Err on side of caution and eliminate the chemical sunscreens. That said, they really don’t know yet if sunscreen is a cause of CA.

Are there any other conditions of health that seem co-mingled with CA?

Yes, there can be – especially other autoimmune disorders. Make sure your primary doctor is looking at your overall health picture.

Is CA an autoimmune disease?

Yes, doctors thought it is an autoimmune disease – it does fit the classification. LPP patients tend to have other autoimmune issues going on.

What about my dry eyes, dry skin, rosacea? Is there a link?

Yes, there is a link with the loss of sebaceous glands affecting other areas – particularly in FFA – dry skin, dry eyes, and rosacea.

What about gut health?

Not much was said about this other than that the doctors agree gut health affects many areas of the body

What drugs should I stay away from?

Doctors encourage us to go to pubmed.org to research drugs and side effects. Look at the side      effects when you are prescribed something. If you aren’t comfortable with taking the medicine or if you see something in it you are allergic to, don’t take it.

What foods should I stay away from?

We all metabolize foods differently - just know your own body – whatever makes you itch, bloated, etc, just avoid them. A full elimination diet like AIP – one doctor said it’s hard to recommend it to people until there is more information. It can’t harm you – may make you feel better overall – but no research or evidence it helps with hair loss.

What alternatives are there to sunscreen?

Search for SPF clothing (Land’s End was one brand mentioned) to protect from the sun.

Is it helpful to have my cortisol and/or DHT levels tested?

Doctors don’t normally test these. Cortisol is hard to test for. There is no data on this. Hormone levels usually test normal with pattern hair thinning. (I have FFA and my hormone levels all test normal)

Is there a link to menopause?

When the sebaceous glands shut down - they go almost to 0 – skin gets dry, vaginal dryness, hair texture changes – and those who are predisposed to get CA, menopause activates the process of sebaceous gland shut down (as well as destroy stem cells as mentioned earlier). There is a study by Kossard on menopause and FFA you can read – it’s on pubmed.org

Does taking Dutasteride increase my risk of breast cancer?

There are no direct studies on this. But if you have a family history of breast cancer, the doctor recommended not to take Dutasteride or Finasteride. In fact, some doctors won’t prescribe it to you if you have a family history of breast cancer.

Is it safe to color my hair?

Again, doctors recommend to do patch testing to determine if you are allergic to an ingredient. If not, it’s ok.

What’s a good solution for facial papules?

              Retin A products seem to work well for this.

Other tips from show and tell time:

              Hair Camo: Hair Direct, Derm Match, Boost n Blend, Toppik, Couvre

Eyebrows: Anastasia Dip Brow or Sephora brand brow pencils (get it two different colors and blend them. “Model in a Bottle” spray helps set the brow pencil to keep it from rubbing off.

Swimming solution: Nammu swim hats are great to use when you are swimming

Scalp pain or burning: Iced cap, Elasto Gel, bag of frozen peas

At home lasers: Hair Max, Capillus

Hair pieces: we looked at options like wigs, bonded hair pieces, taped front pieces. Davlyn tape was recommended for taping pieces down. You can find this at hairdirect.com

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Thank you

I appreciate these notes so much

Mary

Oh wow CurlyK that is absolutely BRILLIANT.  Thank you so very much, from a sister Down Under!  I will be printing all of this out for some invaluable references!

I recently saw a naturopath who posed the question whether it was anything to do with my sitting and working in front of a computer for 8 hours a day five days a week - for 15 years!  A very interesting observation, which I had actually wondered about at some point.  I don't suppose there was any discussion or mention about that at the conference?  A test he did (before I told him of my exposure to the computer and whatever it and the wifi emanates!), showed that I had a lot of exposure and absorption (?not sure if that is correct description, but I think it is close) from electromagnetic energy.  Has anyone else had a lot of exposure to computers/wifi etc?  I apparently have FFA, I have never had itchiness, or papules etc.

Thanks again for your exceptional 'notes'!

Interesting point about being in front of a computer for long periods. I too worked in front of a computer for about 30 years! It is possible, but so many people work all day in front of a computer these days, you'd think that FFA would be much more common than it is -- and in younger people too. Everyone seems to walk around staring at their smart phones too. I don't know, maybe it could be a contributing factor though. And maybe it's becoming more common?

Thank you so much, CurlyK, for such a great summary of the CARF Conference. I am new to this site and group. Lots of very helpful information. I was diagnosed with FFA back in 2009, took Plaquenil for about a year and a half, and that successfully stopped my hairloss then. I lost hair at the sides of my head, my eyebrows and most of the hair on my arms and legs (special bonus :-). Anyway, I believe it just burned out although I don’t recall my doctor taking a biopsy. She did check it at every check up. Eventually, she retired and I, too, retired and moved. Anyway, my hairline did not recede anymore until July 2017 when I think I got a flare up. I’m still usually able to disguise it by bangs. My husband and I moved to a warm, humid place - which is absolutely lovely - but wearing a wig here would be really uncomfortable! The following is a description of some of my symptoms and any ways I’ve found to mitigate them. I’m hoping this will help some of the other FFA group here in at least knowing someone else had similar symptoms perhaps.

  • When I first got the beginnings of FFA, my entire body itched. With this flare, my head began to itch, but mostly I sweat a lot, from my face and head. My tops of my ears and the area where I used to have a widow’s peak were extremely sensitive. I didn’t suspect any flare (I actually didn’t know people had flare ups... I’d really been practing that mind/body thing of ‘do something else, rather than focusing on FFA :-). Anyway, I got really concerned and went to my new doctor.
  • Looking back, I’m not sure what might have predisposed me to FFA. I had a slightly early menopause (47) but no hysterectomy.  I’m a DES daughter (my mother took Diethylstilbestrol during pregnancy). Yes, I’ve had stress in my life when I went for years without sleeping well. By the way, I still have somewhat oily skin on my scalp and face.
  • I am a long-time user of sunscreen and for much of my life I lived in more northern areas plus I have almost always avoided the sun. I wonder if that actually has contributed to FFA. I found an interesting site here.    https://www.vitamindcouncil.org/what-are-the-long-term-consequences...
  • I have read about the FFA sunscreen questionnaire. It was inconclusive, but I have read elsewhere that your skin doesn’t actually make vitamin d when you wear sunscreen. I’m thinking that the message to wear sunscreen every day of 30 spf or greater (from dermatologists along with newspaper and magazine articles) may be overstated to say the least.
  • As far as diet goes, I have always eaten plenty of fruits and vegetables. However, I used to follow a more lowfat diet (lean meat, lots of whole grains, etc). I think the lowfat part was not particularly beneficial to me. Whole grains and beans... who knows? I know most doctors say how healthy they are, but I’m not so sure. I think including some saturated fat in your diet may be good too.
  • For eyebrows, I use Goof Proof Bow Pencil from Benefit and Thinning Hair Fill & Color from Signature Club A at HSN.
  • So, I think the positive thing here is that yes, it does burn out. I went for 10 years without losing more hair. OK, I now have a flare, but I noticed that I no longer have the sore ear/widow’s peak area and I don’t itch or sweat a lot either. I have just started to sun myself (only for 10 mins) without sunscreen and also take some extra vitamin d. I wear a hat but I don’t use chemical sunscreen anymore. When I go snorkeling or to the beach I wear protective clothing or physical sunscreen. Not sure if the vitamin d is helping or just a coincidence... time will tell, I guess.
  • I have decided to take finasteride for a while. We’ll see. I don’t really like taking drugs. With Plaquenil you need to get checked for eye problems, and with finasteride, they kind of don’t know... I wish there was a topical form of finasteride. 

Well, that’s a lot, but I hope some of it is helpful or at least food for thought. 

Hi danab2, thank you for all the info..I wouldn't be surprised is low vitamin d is implicated in FFA, as more and more studies seem to be linking vitamin d deficiency with auto immune disorders

  Thanks also for the tips re cosmetics.

Thank you for your informative posting.  I received more information from it than from my dermatologist.  I waited 3 months to see him.  He flipped through my almost non-existent hair for 10 seconds, wrote Alopecia Areata...Alopecia Totalis on a piece of paper & told me to google it.  Other than that, he wrote a prescription for Protopic.  I used it for 2wks on my scalp, 4 wks on my brows with no positive results other than increased irritation, so I stopped. 

He sounds like a worthless JERK!

Thanks a million for taking the time to pass on this info.  Much appreciated. X

Thank you so much for being such an awesome notetaker!  I must say that my notes were not good, so I am so grateful that you were able to capture all that was said so well.  There was so much to take in that quite honestly, I think we need another day just to process, talk to each other, and form discussion groups.  

Thank heavens we do have this on-line forum.  I must admit that I have been absent from the group lately because I had to take a break from reading all of the posts because it was becoming overwhelming.  I’m back now and hope to be more of a support and encourager to all of you.  We need to be there for each other.  

As I think back to the conference, I have to say that one of the highlights was meeting you and spending time with you.  I hope you are doing well.  Thank you again for these notes.  I’ve saved them.  Hugs.  

CurlyK .... THANK YOU for this!!  I hold this info invaluable!  I have kept the last conference info on my iphone all these years.  This is awesome and I see a lot of progress in how they are thinking about this disease has improved.

This gives me hope!   I don't particularly subscribe to the school of thought that it is not genetic because my Dr, who is conducting a study at Columbia U does believe it and in fact my mother was experiencing symptoms and at 80 yrs old, was biopsied and diagnosed with the same thing.  My sister and cousin (pediatrician) from my extended family (female cousins, mother's are very close) got to thinking about this and pointed out that our grandmother had a lot of hairloss and would always say her scalp was burning and itchy!! 

But so much great info!  I did know some of this from my own Dr. but I loved seeing this laid out and to know there are a LOT of Doctors who are now working on this and aware!  Surely that's a sign we should have hope!

My Dr. knows that there are people like myself who can't take anti inflammatory medications, at least in pill form.  Those things activated an Ulcer that is now permanently there and in waiting after 2 years working on putting it to sleep.

Thanks again!!

best of luck to us all!

Thank you CurlyK! Your exhaustive notes on the conference is a gift to all. So much to consider and research! 

I live in a state (MI) where medical marijuana is legal. I have been experimenting with cannabis oil for a few weeks, alternating it with Tacrolimis, Elidel and Flucocinalone. I've found the cannabis oil very soothing, and I think it has reduced inflammation a bit. I also take Plaquenil and Dutasteride daily. 

Someone posted a question about eyebrow "therapy". My doctor prescribed the generic version of Latisse, which some people use off label to thicken their eyebrows. It seems to help, but it's very expensive. Always a down side......

Has anyone noticed itching skin from taking Plaquenil (Hydroxychloroquine)? I have developed itching on my lower legs, feet and forearms. 

Hi CurlyK

Thank you for all the information you have shared with us - really great notes.  I have just caught up with this site, having been sleeping much better over the last couple of months, I had begun to think that maybe - just maybe - the hair loss had stopped. But no, over the last couple of weeks the itching is back, and I am not sleeping as well as I had been. A vicious circle, itchy scalp, too many thoughts going through my mind in the wee small hours. Reading through your notes and everyone’s comments is very helpful. I have stopped any medication for sometime now, due to it not seeming to be of any benefit, the negative side effects, plus the experience of others on here.  I am happier to seek a more Mindfulness based approach; healthy eating, and hopefully, less stress - although, building another career albeit in a less stressful area isn’t without its moments. :)

Thank you and everyone on here for all the support and shared caring.

xOx

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