Frontal Fibrosing Alopecia

This is specifically for frontal fibrosing alopecia sufferers. To share information and support each other.

  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Hello, I sent a message to group above, but don't know if you got it. Anyway I was diagnosed with FFA this spring and am still getting used the idea of it. It happened gradually at first, just scalp problems, patches of hair along the back of my hair -neck, that eventually grew back, then thinning mostly on one side and then the loss of my temples, around my ears and forehead. I've been able to hide it for the most part, but still hate that I know it won't get better, and may get worse. I hate wind! I try to bring a hat when I know I will be outside. I'm 47 with 2 boys, ages 10 and 12 and I want to be active with them. Would like to know how others deal with it. Thanks!

  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Hi, It has affected my self esteem also. I'd always had thick curly hair - too much hair sometimes. Over the past 2 years it has become thinner all over, more on the right side and all along the front hairline. I still have eyebrows and lashes thankfully. And the texture of my hair is different- more thin and frizzy, just not the same. I've gone to more of a flat hairstyle with bangs in the front and I use a curling iron or flat iron to smooth it out. The front hairline has about 1- 1/2 inches missing and I worry that it will recede more and be harder to cover. I just feel ugly and feel like I have to hide it with the hair I have left or wear a hat. I worry about being outside without a hat, going swimming, the wind blowing it all over. My husband says not to worry about it, because he loves me no matter what. and I know it's not a life threatening disease, but still it just makes me feel bad. I just don't like being stared at. Although I'm used to stares sometimes - I have a 12 yr old son who has autism and sometimes he behaves like a younger child and is too loud or sometimes will have a meltdown in public. And when my doctor told me the news he was just like "you have ffa, sorry, goodbye" Didn't offer much in the way of treatment or anything else. I held it together in his office but was crying all the way home. The people I've told are like "it's just hair" and "at least it's not anything worse", but Really how would they feel if it was THEM?? if they woke up bald tomorrow how would they feel about it? thanks for letting me vent!!! It feels good to talk to someone who understands!!

  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Celia - don't worry about the typos. That would be hard to type with one hand, hope it heals up fast for you! I'm sure any type of alopecia would be hard to deal with, especially for the younger kids or teenagers. I've had days when I didn't want to leave the house or volunteer for something at my son's school because I don't want the other moms to look at my hair, but then I realize I need to get on with life and can't stay at home forever. I am a stay at home mom, and try to help out at my boys' schools, Cub scouts, Boy scouts and in the summer my son who has autism plays Buddy Baseball and I am on the committee for that. I just don't want someone to think I'm losing my hair because of cancer or some other serious illness. My hair seems to be staying the way it is for now, so I'm just trying to style it so it's less noticable. I just pray it doesn't get much worse any time soon. I see lots of older women with thinning hair, and I am an older mom, but I don't want to be mistaken for my kids Grandma! I am also trying to lose weight with Weight Watchers, eat more healthy and take vitamins in the hope that it will slow down my hair loss, and make me feel better. Hope you're having a good day! Karen

  • Heidi Short UK

    I have recently been diagnosed with frontal fibrosing alopicia and interested in finding as much info as I can about this disease

  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Hi, it's nice to finally meet others who have experienced the same thing (unfortunately) but we can all help and support each other. My hair problems started out with an extremely itchy scalp and flaking. I though it was dermatitis or psoriasis on my scalp - it was really bad so it went to my dermatologist and got a rx scalp treatment and shampoo- Clobetasol. The dryness isn't so bad now but I use Neutrogena t-gel shampoo to keep it under control.
    We had a nice holiday - 4th of July, yesterday, had a cook-out at my husband's dad and step-mom's house, with her two daughters and my kids' cousins. Then stopped to see a fireworks show in our town. We were mostly inside during the day since it's been very hot here - hitting 100*F here in the midwest. The heat and humidity don't do my hair any favors! Our kids had fun lighting some fireworks in our driveway too. I also wanted to let you know that I'm on Facebook under Karen Beck (Karen Snyder Beck) - in Council Bluffs, IA - if any of you want to "friend" me. Otherwise I'll see you here. Hope you're all doing well.

  • Heidi Short UK

    I'm not very computer literate,andI'm not sure if I'm writing in the right place to reply to you all,hopefully you get this!!! I realised there was a problem in January as my hair was receding like a man's would.I went to the doctor and he did loads of blood tests, they all came back ok, except my hormone ones, which I already new as I have been going through the menopause since I was 43 and I am now 48! Over the next few months I was having some other issues with allergies and I was waiting to see a consultant so I thought all this, and the thinning of my eye brows would be connected, and the consultant was going to give me a magic pill and I would be right as rain!!! When I went he said he didn't know what was wrong and I should go and see a dermatologist. To cut along story short, I went private, and I have been given hydroxychloroquine 200mg and dermovate scalp application which I use morning and night.I have tried reflexology, a high alkaline diet, silica and hair and nail vitamines. Do I sound desperate!!!!! Iam so confused I don't know what to do for the best.Should I go down the medical route which uses medication that could damage my liver,kidneys, my eye sight,and even could make me loose my hair!but has had results which slows the process down but doesn't cure it or should I go down the complementary medicine way who haven't heard of frontal fibrosing alopicia so they could be working on an area that will make my body work better so will it make my hair fall out quicker!!! I am so confused I don't know which way to turn, any ideas anyone?

  • Carol Sue Cain

    Hello all!
    I was diagnosed with scarring alopeia 2 years ago. It started out with me realizing (by looking at a wedding picture) that my eyebrows had disappeared. Also, my head was itchy and at night got cold. I went through a battery of tests disproving thyroid, finding gluten sensitivity (which I now avoid) and finally a derm specialist who happened to have done her fellowship in scarring alopecia.
    She biopsied my scalp and found moderate to severe inflammation. I was on some anti-malaria med for a while (anti-inflamatory) but it did nothing. I was on ACTOS for a year and and cortizone shots. My eyebrows came back and my inflamation abated. I didn't like being on it due to potential side affects, and stopped last year. Unfortunately the inflamation has returned (mild) and I have started loosing my eyebrows again.
    I'm thinking of getting eyebrow tattoos.
    That's it in a nutshell. My hair is thinning on the front, but it's not so bad unless the wind blows. (My hair is pretty baby fine anyway). I went blond to soften the color difference between my scalp and hair. Everyone assumes it's to hide grey.
    I've been pretty open about my condition with friends and co-workers...warning them that I'll probably become the crazy hat/scarf lady eventually! :)

  • Carol Sue Cain

    Hey y'all!
    When I was going to my dermatologist who did her fellowship on scarring alopecia, she said that (at least her) research implicated the oil produced by the hair follicles. She said that for some reason, the oil is not normal (something about messed up "lipid pathways"). The inflammation is the result of our bodies rejecting/fighting the "foreign" oil. In this sense, our alopecia isn't technically "auto-immune"...but it's all related. Anyway, ACTOS, the diabetic drug, does something to the lipid pathways and it seemed to help my case. BUT, that drug also is implicated in a lot of bad side effects, so I stopped taking it after a year. She is waiting for the active ingredient in ACTOS to be produced by pharma in a topical form. Problem is, that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. In the meantime, it seems all we can do is treat the inflammation and try to break that cycle. Bottom line, the medical establishment doesn't really know much. Scarring Alopecia is supposed to be RARE....yet my doctor said she is seeing A LOT of it in that past few years. hmmmmmm

  • PamW San Diego, CA, USA

    I am a 55 year old female just diagnosed with Frontal Fibrosing Alopecia. I am looking for anyone who can tell me how quickly their hair loss progressed and if they tried anti malarial drugs and or actos. My derm was able to diagnose me right away, so I feel lucky that I didn't waste years getting a diagnosis. She says stopping the inflammation is keynto stopping the hair loss. Has anyone had good experience with slowing things down?
  • Heidi Short UK

    Hello Pam I'm using anti malarial drugs and steroid lotion twice a day. I would like to say it has relly slowed the hair loss down but if I'm honest I don't think it is. Sorry that isn't what you want to hear. My doctor did say it works better on some people than others so I hope you are one of them! I have also tried a change in diet, vitamins ,silica, reflexology, and I'm using Philip Kingsley itchy/flakey hair products.I am also desperate for imformation on something that i can feel positive about, that might actually work. I would love to find a professor or someone who is doing research into frontal fibrosing alopicia that we could all give our own infomation so they can collect data and perhaps get some results.

  • PamW San Diego, CA, USA

    how long have you been treated? I am reading that Actos has been helpful for some. I am beginning to accept there is no cure or control for this disease. I am now into looking at hair alternatives. Do you wear anything? Are bonded human hair wiglets something I should consider?
  • Heidi Short UK

    I don't wear anything yet, accept for hats on windy days! I've been on medication since the end of May. what is Actos?

  • PamW San Diego, CA, USA

    It is a drug used to treat type 2 diabetes. There has been some buzz about it being helpful in FFA. It is supposed to have an effect on the inprocessed lipids in our systems.
  • Heidi Short UK

    Sorry i went to bed it was after midnight, I had spent nearly two hours trying to put a photo to my name, I told you all I'm computer iliterate!! I realised after I sent the message that Actos is the medication that Carol Sue was on, I think she felt it helped but came off it due to the side effects!

  • PamW San Diego, CA, USA

    I was wondering if the members of this group could share how long they have been diagnosed and how quickly their hair loss progressed. Is hair loss rapid or gradual?
  • PamW San Diego, CA, USA

    Sandy, are you able to cover with a hair style? Do you take any meds? And, finally, hownlong does it take to burn out?
  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Hello, I haven't been on here for a while but thought I'd add my story. I was diagnosed with FFA this spring 2012 by my dermatologist. My hair and scalp problems began in the summer & fall of 2010. My scalp had been very itchy and irritated and I went to my regular doctor and she prescribed Derma-smoothe oil treatment, which you put on your scalp and leave on overnight. This was very difficult to use and didn't do very much good. I was using Neutrogena T-gel shampoo daily and it helped, but by later in the day my scalp was itchy again and driving me crazy. Went to my Dermatologist in 12/2010 and he gave me Clobex shampoo and clobetasol topical solution. These worked better but not completely. I also got shots of Cortisone along my front hairline. Around this time I noticed I had some hair loss at the back of my neck- a strip about an inch wide right along the back. I had bloodwork done which showed a positive ANA -anti-nuclear antibodies - which suggest an imbalance in my auto-immune system. I went to a Rheumatologist and they found nothing else wrong so they did nothing. I continued with the cortisone shots every 6 weeks - this was supposed to be for the inflamation. finally I quit going because my insurance would not cover it and was getting expensive. I was losing hair all around at this time but didn't really notice how bad until September of 2011 when the hair at my temples and front started falling out faster. I was just using the T-gel shampoo and the itchiness was not as bad now, just hair loss. In Feb & March 2012 I went back to the Dermatologist and showed him how bad it was now and he did a biopsy and blood work and finally diagnosed me with FFA. He said there were some Rx meds that might help but he didn't recommend them because of the side effects. So now my hair loss is about 2- 21/2 inches around the whole front hairline and ears, and seems to be staying that way. It's also thinned all around with a very thin patch on the back right side. I can cover it mostly with my remaining hair but am very self-conscious about it and wear a hat when I'm outside and it's windy. Sorry this is so long! I still use the t-gel shampoo daily and that helps with the scalp itch. I'm also taking more vitamins and trying to eat healthy in the hopes it will help. - Karen - also I am 47 yrs old.

  • KarenGinny - Iowa, US

    Oh I forgot to say that the hair at my neck line in the back, did eventually grow back in, but the hair in the front has not. Thus - FFA. also a lot of my major hair loss times appear to be at very stressful times of my life. And now my ANA is still elevated and I've been having trouble with pain & swelling in my hands and feet - my doctor thinks this is Rheumatoid Arthritis. I'm sure it's all related somehow. Anyone else have RA??