Vaccination dangers

Taking a trip to Colombia and two of the places we are visiting require the yellow fever vaccine. When I went to get it the pharmacist refused to give the vaccine because she was unsure if it would end up causing me to have yellow fever. Waiting to hear back from an MD. Has anyone been refused vaccinations before or have any experience with a live culture vaccine with alopecia areata?

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Permalink Reply by Cindy on July 10, 2015 at 1:13pm

I've never been refused vaccines because of this and i'm universalis.  I just went to Colombia two weeks ago and had not problems. 

Permalink Reply by Jacqui on July 10, 2015 at 1:20pm
Hi.....I think it might be because Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder and if you're on Prednisone or any other Immune Suppressant than you're not allowed to have "live" vaccinations because you may not be able to build antibodies to it. Hope that helps...Jacqui
Permalink Reply by ghostship on July 10, 2015 at 1:24pm

 World's leading authority on autoimmunity strongly advises against vaccination for people with autoimmune disease, esp. yellow fever and other live virus vaccines, but also those with aluminum. 

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/attacking-ourselves-top-doctors-re...

ALSO, there is a chapter on Alopecia Areata and vaccination in the new medical textbook called Vaccines and Autoimmunity, released by Wiley and Sons last month. Says there is evidence the two are linked and research is "warranted."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/book/10.1002/9781118663721

Permalink Reply by Football fan on July 10, 2015 at 1:59pm
Went to Roatan 3 years ago and took malaria pills not sure if that's a live virus and 6 weeks later my hair started growing back!
Permalink Reply by ghostship on July 10, 2015 at 2:05pm

Malaria pills are not a vaccine, not live, but quinine a component of tree bark. Maybe they helped, maybe it was the sunshine.

Permalink Reply by Nerida on July 11, 2015 at 6:43am
Omg thanks for the reminder about malaria pills. Long before I started loosing my hair I took malaria pails for an overseas trip and my hair went totally crazy and grew like 4 inches over a couple of months. I'm going to my doc and asking for some, fingers crossed that they still have the same effect and that I havnt developed an allegy to them.
Permalink Reply by HBLady on July 10, 2015 at 4:19pm

And malaria pills are one of the drugs prescribed for some types of hair loss (I had it prescribed for me at one point).

Permalink Reply by Anne on July 10, 2015 at 2:59pm
It should be fine, unless you're on an immunosuppressant drug, but definitely check with your doctor first.

Definitely don't check greenmedinfo for any reliable information on vaccines. They're a junk science site, and Yehuda Shoenfeld is NOT well-respected in the scientific community, MD or no.
Permalink Reply by ghostship on July 10, 2015 at 3:37pm

Yehuda Shoenfeld is the founder of the International Autoimmunology Congress which I attended last year in France and was attended also by 2,300 physicians from across the globe. He was introduced there as the "Godfather of Autoimmunology." He is the author of more than 1,800 peer-reviewed published articles on PubMed (you can search his name there if you know how) and of more than 25 textbooks, including Autoantibodies, Infection and Autoimmunity, the Mosaic of Autoimmunity and his latest, called Vaccines and Autoimmunity, published by Wiley and directed to physicians. Not well respected. Who says?

Permalink Reply by NorthernFirepower on July 10, 2015 at 3:20pm

I have taken the oral live culture vaccine just this spring for a trip to Colombia as well and had no issues what so ever. Just go by the directions and all will be well. Aside from your hair falling out hehehe, one thing I've learned about this wonderful disorder is to accept it for what it is and move on.

It is very important that you have your yellow fever card with you when coming back thru customs, I believe you can be denied re-entry without it it, all the other vaccines didn't matter. I took Malarone I believe for Malaria prevention, and the only area I saw a mosquito was in the eastern region in  Villa de Leyva. Where abouts do you plan to go? Hope you share when you return, such a beautiful country and full of good happy people!

Permalink Reply by spettro on July 10, 2015 at 3:50pm
That's exactly what happened to me - sort of. Received a flu vaccine that precipitated alopecia areata in me. My hair grew back after about a year - no recurrence (knock on wood). Refused cortisol shots. I also have asthma and a lot of different hayfever allergies and to dogs and cats too. The derm told me that people with existing conditions (like myself) are more prone to autoimmune issues.
Permalink Reply by ghostship on July 10, 2015 at 3:59pm

That is echoed in the chapter by the immunologists in Vaccines and Autoimmunity who also cite numerous studies of vaccination inducing alopecia in lab animals and case studies in the literature -- enough that they think it warrants serious investigation.. Sorry, but I don't see alopecia as something to embrace but something to find out what is causing it, how to avoid it and how to fix it -- just like MS and other diseases. 

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