Frontal Fibrosing Alopecia

This is specifically for frontal fibrosing alopecia sufferers. To share information and support each other.

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  • Lauren

    Has anyone had success with cortisone shots? I had one treatment of what the deem said was very very low dose. This may just be in my head but I have this round bare spot where I think one of the shots was given!? Is this possible?? I was not told it could cause hair loss!
  • Brenda, IL US

    Curly K and Bu US I got my hair replacement put on. I am so happy!! I wish I'd done it a long time ago. I teared up before I sat down to get the top of my head shaved but no tears fell. I'm posting from my phone and will try to put a pic on
  • MnM

    Brenda,I'm so happy to hear it! Would you mind sharing where you went as I am in Illinois as well?
  • Brenda, IL US

    I went to Kincaids in Terre Haute, IN. It's on 3rd St. I'm traveling and don't have their #. I'm as giddy as a kid in a candy store. People keep saying that I look 10 years younger.
  • Norfolk Girl

    Hi, this message is regarding eyebrow tattooing and is really of my fellow UK sufferers. I had eyebrow tattoos done by Belinda Hayle two years ago and they are brilliant. I had them 'topped up' last year and have just finally got through to Belinda (after several fruitless attempts which included leaving messages. Anyway she has apparently stopped doing tattooing as the result of illness. Obviously this is unfortunate for her but I am somewhat miffed that they did not bother to contact existing customers who have a medical reason for having these tot tools done. She has some people she has trained up that she says are good but I just wondered if anyone in the U.K. Can recommend anyone else, particularly in either the south east or East Angelia.

    Thanks everyone.
  • CurlyK

    Brenda - sorry I'm late in responding but congrats on your new beautiful hair! I have to share a story from this morning...

    I had to pick up someone from a surgical center this morning. When I checked at the front desk to pick the person up, the lady at the desk said "Wow! I LOVE your HAIR!" I smiled and said thank you. She then said "Is it natural?" which took me by surprise for a sec thinking she meant 'is it my own hair'...then I realized she was talking about the natural curl. :) I said, "Absolutely - all natural curls!" It made me feel so good inside!

    So...said patient was hungry so we went to get breakfast. An older gentleman and his wife were behind us in line and he piped up and said "I really like your hair. It's fantastic!" I was like, wow, and this guy is standing there with his wife - awkward! BUT again I smiled and said 'thank you so much!'.

    Yesterday, a faculty member and I passed in the hall and he said "I really like what you've done with your hair."

    I felt like this was God's way of hugging me today. I haven't been complimented on my hair in at least a decade. I've been in hiding for four years since the receding and hair loss started. Today, my confidence is way up because now I'm not constantly thinking "whose looking at my hair?" and "can they see how bald I am?" or worrying about every little breeze that blows by.

    For me, getting a bonded hair piece was the BEST decision I've made in regards to my FFA. I'm so grateful!!!

  • Brenda, IL US

    Thank you to Bu, Minter, and CurlyK. Best decision I've made in this 6 year journey. CurlyK I'm so happy for you. It's amazing how uplifting a compliment can be.
  • Liz

    Hi Norfolk Girl

    If you can get to Richmond I recommend Sara Woolhead. I had mine eyebrows tattooed there and I love them xx

  • Marian

    A couple of posters have said that they order hair and then cut it into sideburns. I am looking for details on how they go about this. Where do you order it from, what do you ask for and how did you determine how to cut it to match the missing hairline. It would be great to have a private photoshare area to do some "show and tell". As we are all so far flung in this big world. I have had extensions around the sides which has helped some but doesn't help with those missing sideburns. So happy for those of you who have found your solutions!
  • Wyobalance

    Check out the current Carf newsletter for an article on Mini Hair Pieces (can be used for sideburns)  www.carfintl.org

  • Marian

    How did I miss that! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
  • Norfolk Girl

    Hi Liz,

    Thanks, I will contact her.
  • Minter

    CurlyK, your happiness with your hair is bursting through in your post, what an awesome day for you! :-)

  • Isabel

    Hi CurlyK! I'm very happy for you!!!

    Like you, I also have curly hair. I can still hide my AFF, but I'd like to know what type of solution you found to your situation. Is it something like Lucinda Ellery's in London? Can you post a link to the company where you got it?

  • CurlyK

    Isabel, I got my hair piece at Custom Hair Tampa Bay (Florida). They have 3 locations. They made a mold of my head and matched my natural hair color and natural curl. 10 weeks later I had a piece that was custom made for my scalp. They shaved the top part of my scalp and glued the hair piece to it. I go to them every five weeks when they remove it, clean off the glue, scrub my scalp and then glue the piece back on. They keep my own hair trimmed as it continues to grow. It's extremely secure and I sleep in it, shower in it, swim in it etc. With my work schedule and busy life, this was the best option for me.
  • Lo

    CurlyK, so this piece actually replaces your hairline?  I've lost about 2 inches from above/around my ears... and a bit less at temples/top hairline... how much (and where) had you lost prior to taking this route with the bonded piece?  Thanks for your help.

  • CurlyK

    I first noticed my hair loss about four years ago when I was 43. It slowly kept receding and thinning on top. (I wish we could have a private photo area cause I would gladly share my photos with sisters who have the same condition.) I never specifically measured how far it receded but I would guess at least 2 inches behind my normal hair line and around my ears. Ive lost my eyebrows (getting them tattooed Monday!) And most of the hair on my arms and legs. It thinned on top pretty bad back to the crown. So the "cap" part of my hair piece does create a new hair line in front and goes back to just cover the crown area. I now have a head full of curly hair!
  • Airam-FFA

    Thank you CurlyK for sharing this information. Does anyone know where we can get this service in the UK?
    xOx
  • Celia

    Hello all. I am Celia and I started this group in 2012. I haven't been able to post for a while as my access to the site became blocked. I have much to catch up on !

    I presume you all see the picture of me at the top taken when I lived in Dubai. There are very few ladies who still write here, Liz being one of them. I hope I do not get blocked again !

  • Minter

    Hi Celia, first off I want to say thank you so much for starting this group! It has been a lifesaver with trying to deal with FFA. Glad you are able to be post again and yes, your photo in Dubai is still visible :-)

  • Celia

    Hello Minter, I am glad you have found the group helpful. I think just knowing you are not alone is important for a start. I am not on any medication and honestly, my commitment to taking pills was never that strong when I considered the possible side effects.

    I read that Belinda Hayle who created my eyebrows is no longer working, I was sorry to hear that she is not well. If anyone in Uk near London can recommend someone, I would be very grateful. Thanks !

  • Ana_Brazil

    Hi!

    I just came back from my visit to my dermatologist, to share some of my experience with some doctors from California.

    The result is, they all agree the treatment that I am following is the standard for FFA at the moment. I am taking hydroxychloroquine sulfate + Dutasteride + Rogain foam + hormone replacement sine I am on menopause. I have been on the program for about 5 month, not very diligently with all my travels, but I heard good news. I was examine and we also look over the previous images and it looks that I have more volume of hair in the frontal area, not where I lost hair, but just beyond that. I could feel the difference, but it was good to have the confirmation.

    We also think I might have more hair in the frontal portion where I lost hair, we saw very minimum increase but there was an increase in hair. The sides are the same.

    Just wanted to share!

    Thank you!

    Ana

  • Claire Julia

    Hi Celia, good to have you back. I also have been off this forum as my email was hacked. Anyway just thought I would let you know,and Liz that I'm going to Lucinda
    Ellery on Tuesday. Feel excited but also very nervous. Thanks Debbie for the inspiration as well. Claire.
  • Claire Julia

    Sorry, that should have been thanks to Denice, not Debbie.x
  • Minter

    Claire Julia, good luck at Lucinda Ellery's- please post how the day goes, I for one will be interested, as I am starting to think that by the spring it will be time for me to do the same.

    Ana_Brazil, that is good news for you! Glad to hear your program is showing some improvement :-)

  • Kathy in Denver

    Hi. I had my first long awaited doctor's appointment this week at CU Med Center in Denver. The doctor told me while rare she is seeing more FFA with time. I knew I had it from "way too much time" on the internet but my first doctor keep saying it was non classic patter of female baldness...good grief! Any, I have been feeling "pretty dark about the whole thing based on what I have been reading. My new doctor on the other hand has said she has had really good results with the protocol I am on...plaquenil, tacrolimus ointment. I am also having a lot of acupuncture and have upped my yoga practice. She also said it will burn out eventually. I do not seem to find much supporting info along these lines on the internet and I guess keep asking variations of the same question on this site. I am wondering if maybe the success stories are not here as possibly those people are not researching in the way we are any more. Does any one have any perspective in this regard?
  • Airam-FFA

    Hi Kathy, I have recently been diagnosed with FFA after two years of my Dr saying it was female pattern baldness - will always wonder if my hairline might have been saved had they referred me to a specialist earlier. I have been given a very thick ? Steroid cream (difficult to put on - I think it rubs out my hair so am not using it) and Doxycycline - malarial tablets - not sure about these as they make me sick and I have to sit upright for an hour to stop them burning my throat :/ . I am trying to get referred to a specialist for a second opinion. I have also started a course of acupuncture with Chinese herbs with a view to de-stressing. I have given my DNA as part of a research programme. I was also told the condition should burn itself out 2 - 4 - 10 years ... :( But how much of my hairline will remain! It is a crappy condition! xOx
  • Airam-FFA

    http://www.lucindaellery-hairloss.co.uk/ffa.php

    Just looked on the Internet - they are in various locations.

    xOx
  • Judy

    Celia and Kathy, First, Celia, thanks for starting this group. I was on it from the beginning and amwas so grateful for it!!
    Kathy, I believe you are correct. In my case the FFA
    happily, did burn out several years ago and I gradually stopped following this site. There probably should be a site for 'FFA Success and Burnout'. In my case, I just stopped loosing hair. Occasionally I see a few new 'weak' little hairs on hairline, arms, etc but they soon disappear. I am
    OK with it now but certainly was a wreck when it was active. Wishing all of you the best of luck with it.
  • Kathy in Denver

    Judy, thank you for the response. Would you be willing to share your timeline and treatment?
  • Kathy in Denver

    I have made a request for a FFA success group to hopefully collect the timelines and treatments of people success per Judy's great idea below. If you know someone who is no longer on the site as they have experienced burnout, would you please ask them to post. I for one need to read more about this aspect and hope I others will embrace. I think it will reduce stress.
  • Airam-FFA

    Yes. I would also be interested in success stories - would give us hope. xOx
  • Liz

    Hi. My mum has FFA and she no longer loses any hair. I think that she's probably had it for 8-10 years. She's never taken any medication for it. I have had FFA for 5 years . I lost a lot of hair in a short space of time but now it seems to have stopped. In the past couple of years, since losing a band of hair at the front it's gradually thinned on the top. The hair on my arms also started to thin and grow in a zig zag fashion when I was first diagnosed. Recently I'm getting more normal growth on my arms
  • Maddy, California, U.S.

    Hi, I have had FFA for 10 years and have been on this site for many years. I do not post that much anymore because my FFA seems to no longer be active. I had three major hair sheds in 2006, 2007 and 2008, but since then I have not had any major hair loss. I notice a few weak hairs now and then, but nothing like the drastic hair loss I experienced in the early years. I am not on any medication now (although early on I did try steroid shots and took doxy for a few years), except I do use a little Rogaine in the front most nights. I feel that it does make the hair that is still there a little fuller. I ended up losing about 1/2" in the front and probably an inch on the sides...but I can still cover it for the most part. I feel that my FFA was triggered by the flu vaccine. I had never had one until 2006, and my first major hair shed (temples) started about two weeks after that first vaccine. I did not connect it that year, so had another one in 2007, and it happened again...finally when I got the one in 2008, I figured it out because I always went to my derm a few weeks after that shot complaining of more hair loss. Anyway, I suspect the triggers are different for everyone, but mine was definitely the flu vaccine and I have not had one since 2008 and no more hair loss. 

  • Anne Louise

    Judy, Liz and Maddy, and anyone else who may be in the much hoped for burnout stage: I am wondering how your hair loss progressed. I recall reading somewhere that there was a theory that those who lost eyebrows first had a more mild case, but those who lost body hair had a more severe case. Well I lost all of my eyebrows first but have also lost all the hair on my arms and legs! So I don't know if there is any merit in that theory. But true cases of burnout give the rest of us hope, so please stay on this site for the rest of us! Thanks.

  • Maddy, California, U.S.

    Hi Anne Louise, Yes, my eyebrows did start to go early on! I immediately started using Latisse and now use Rogaine on them nightly. I still have enough to get by. The hair on my arms is very fine and short, but it's there and I still have to shave my legs but not as often as I used to. 

  • sallylwess

    Kathy, I am so sorry for you diagnosis.  I decided to share my story again in word and photo. A picture is worth a thousand words, so I am sending a photo to show how much hair I have lost.  This is not a success story.  I first saw a derm in 2006 for a pustule on my scalp.  I already had no hair on my arms or legs.  In 2010, during a time of great loss and stress, my hair thinned greatly but I barely noticed as I dealt with the death of my daughter.  In 2011, I lost my eyebrows.  I was diagnosed with FFA/LPP in 2013.  I have used clobetasol, finesteride, plaquenil, and had steroid shots.  I saw the same doctors you have seen at the U of C.  They prescribed finesteride and plaquenil.  I could take neither.  Steroid shots gave me rashes and more inflammation.  I now use only clobetasol solution because all other forms of clobetasol cause my scalp to inflame with burning pain.  I also sometimes use protopic.  I am going to start minocycline soon.  I am waiting for the holidays to be over before starting a new medication.  I will also start mycophenolate (celcept) soon.  I am getting over a viral infection, so I don't want to take the immune suppressant until I am well.  This will be my final ditch effort to save what I have left.  It has been a long journey, but I have come to more acceptance of the loss than I ever thought possible.  Kathy, send my a private email and we can connect.  I hope to help put together a FFA support group in Colorado soon.

  • Airam-FFA

    Hi Maddy - interesting what you say about the flu jab. Might be a factor. I put my FFA down to stress, but I think my hair loss has also co-incided with taking the flu jab for the first time.xOx
  • Judy

    Kathy, my timeline was: 1-1.5 years for the forehead
    hair loss, eyebrows started 4 or 5 years earlier but my doctor kept telling me it was caused by 'getting older'! When the hair loss and scabbing began my hairdresser told me To go to a dermatologist immediately. The derm was very familiar with FFA and I started treatment right away---clobasel (sp) and plaquenel. I feel very fortunate and to have found a good doctor. Also lucky I didn't loose as much hairline as some of the others.
    Yes, I imagine there are many positive and happy results out there. Wishing success to all.
  • Judy

    PS: forgot to mention amount of hair loss. About 1/2"
    On my forehead but none on the sides. Lost all hair on eyebrows, arms and legs.
  • Leni

    Just wanted to share... Just started following this page on Facebook.

    Cicatricial Alopecia Research Foundation (CARF)


    Also, I contacted a doctor in Florida Dr. Raymond Fertig. I had inquired about finding a specialist in my area. Here's what he sent me.

    Please look at the The Cicatricial Alopecia Research Foundation (CARF) website. If you subscribe to the CARF site they will send you a list of recommendations in your area. You can also call them number included below. I wish you the best.

    http://www.carfintl.org/
    Tel: 1-310-801-3450

    On page click "join" on right side of page or here is direct link:
    https://www.registration123.com/CARF/MAIN/
  • Jane

    Hi, I am a woman from Sweden recently diagnosed with FFA. I wonder if there are any other members from Sweden in this group?

    /Jane

  • Gittan

    I am swedish too. We can be in touch. Have sent you my contactadresses
  • Pam

    Happy New Year to everyone ! Lets hope 2017 is a good one. Glad to have you back online Celia - your group has been a great support to so many of us. Pam.

  • Celia

    Hi Pam , hope you had a good festive time. Will have a get together THIS YEAR. It's nice to be back on the forum but I stopped checking a long time ago as I felt coping without was in a way better. So glad that this way of communicating has helped to support so many people. There is now such a lot of useful info here perhaps the derms should log on and really search for clues documented in posts regarding FFA. In order to A .....find the trigger and B ....find a cure. In the meantime, we should all find ways of making us feel good about ourselves, eyebrow enhancements, hairpieces etc. In my opinion, I would avoid meds and go for a holistic way of treating the condition. Good food, sensible lifestyle and vitamins... for those of you who are relatively new to this site, I was diagnosed in 2011, after a serious bout of pneumonia involving lots of anti-biotics and chest x rays.

    Celia  

  • Lo

    Hi, Celia and group.  I definitely appreciate the site - and the people.  It is clear that we are all "in this" together, and having that sense of community is priceless.  Celia - may I ask if you have always taken the holistic approach - and how has that helped with your overall hair loss?  Are you still able to "wear" your own hair?  I, too, started losing mine in 2010-2011.

  • Michaela

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  • Bonneygirlrn

    I have slowly progressing FFA, diagnosed around 5 years ago but started probably 7 years ago. I have tried different haircuts to hide the loss of my hairline and luckily I had a low hairline to start. Now I'm at the point where I need to get a hairpiece or extensions of some kind. So hard when it's the front of your hair, how can it look natural?
  • Minter

    Hi Bonneygirlm,  that is the dilemma with this FFA, how to hide the missing front hairline- toppers are great for the thinning on the top, if you do have thinning, but that doesn't solve the problem of the front. I am in the midst of looking at options, if you look at the thread Extensions yay or nay, maybe you'll find some info there to help you.  Some people can get tape in pieces for the hairline, I am looking into the intra lace system- in a couple of weeks I have the consultation and will report back on how it goes-

  • Claire Julia

    I'm getting the interlace system on Tuesday. Excited but also slightly anxious. Will report back.